Mongo posted a comment on Thursday 25th September 2008 2:38am

In response to your request for a list of redo fanfics:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/viridian_dreams/files/

includes several lists -- the most recent is called:

redo fanfics - reorganized.xls

which is quite comprehensive, but is two years old. A more up-to-date list would be:


Harry Goes Back in Time to His Younger Self by Lyra Snape

Bill

Mr.Intel replied:

Excellent!   Thanks, Bill.

--M

BJH posted a comment on Thursday 25th September 2008 2:15am

Hmm, this does seem like an interesting take on the Re-do concept. I always like your stories so I am looking forward to seeing how this one goes.

Let me ask you a question: When Dumbledore asks Harry and Ginny to remove the ribbons you made a point of telling us that she quickly took them back and put them in her pocket, does this have some significance?

Will the ribbons have some sort of meaning to Ginny with regards to her feelings for Harry? Or perhaps it shows a cute quirk in her prsonality having been raised poor. Did she learn from Molly that you waste nothing? Is she the type of person who saves wrapping paper in order to reuse it? That could be an adorable/annoy quirk to Harry as the story progresses. Harry in a rush to catch some DE and Ginny stopping to pick up some little thing that Harry discarded because "Hey! That might come in handy sometime!" Then when the chips arre down and Harry is frustrated because he needs something, Ginny can pull it out of her bag and say "See? I told you!"

BJH

Mr.Intel replied:

Ah, BJ.   You always know how to make an author smile.   That little line was written as a one off, but when I re-read it the other day, I had some similar thoughts as you regarding her feelings for Harry.   As to the pack-rat mentality... I'm married to one, so I can easily see how Ginny would be that way.   If nothing else, it could make for some extra characterization in the future.

Thanks for reviewing!

amulder posted a comment on Thursday 25th September 2008 1:43am

Wow, you up for the challenge?

I do disagree a touch with your prologue, in that I'm pretty sure that Viridian's NoFP was not the "first" redo out there. I know that Tim/Jeconais started one long ago, that he abandoned. But that isn't really that important.

The problem I find with most redo's is that the really good ones get to be quite long and the authors tend to get bogged down. It's a huge, huge, thing to attempt. You referred to Fate's Debt. He's practically at a standstill. I rather wish he handn't begun his big project to rewrite/improve the earlier chapters. He still isn't caught up to where he was the first time through. Sigh.

So I'm astonished that you're attempting this. I thought you'd pulled back from fanfic, and now you're attempting this?

Anyway. I do like the approach of NOT trying to hide everything. It's wise of him to realize that he needs Dumbledore's help. For one thing I think this should lead to a much more interesting redo, since it will NOT parallel canon so much, which does get tiring.

I would question the need to even re-embody Voldemort. Other redo's have gone through that also. Once you nuke all the Horcruces, I would argue that you don't necessarily have to let Voldemort re-embody.

But the challenge, if you're following through with Horcruxes, is what to do with the one in Harry's forehead. Hmm.

thanks for sharing

Mr.Intel replied:

You raised a lot of concerns in your review.   Most of them I share with you!

I'm dithering on re-embodying Voldemort for the very reason you mention last.   What to do with the Harry!Horcrux?   Either Harry has to die, or I have to come up with some non-stupid way of getting Voldiespirit out of his head.

As for making it intolerably long... Since I'm not going to stick page for page, or even chapter for chapter with canon, I don't anticipate it being too terribly long.   Whether I'm up for the challenge remains to be seen!   I'm still muddling through TMOL, which I've set a 100,000 word goal for.   We'll see how that works out and then I'll have a free run for this little project.   The *nice* thing about a redo is that most of the bones of the story are already in place.   It's just a matter or altering the skelaton a little.   ;)

liquidfyre posted a comment on Thursday 25th September 2008 1:27am

interesting so far. I am looking forward to how you take this one.

Update soon or suffer my wraaaaath.

*begins to train his mighty army of flying turtles*

you do not want to face my wrath

*cackles insanely*

Mongo posted a comment on Thursday 25th September 2008 1:22am

You are correct that "Nightmares of Futures Past" is the first redo fanfic that became really popular, but there were many similar stories started before it. "Nightmares" was started in October 2005, while the first true redo fic I know of, "Ashes in Our Mouths", was started in March 2003, 2 1/2 years earlier. By my count, at least 31 redo or quasi-redo fanfics were started before "Nightmares".

I will agree that NoFP opened the floodgates for the subgenre -- and that it was easily the best of the early stories of its type.

So far I definitely like "Making it Right". When reading a redo story, I never really agree with Harry's usual decision to not reveal that he has returned from the future. I understand that it might make for an easy source of story tension if he is keeping it secret, but logically Harry would have a much easier time of it if at least a few people know the truth, including his friends. Not to mention the ethics of the situation.

Looking forward to more of this story!

Mr.Intel replied:

That's really good information about the previous redos.   Do you know of any listing of such stories?   I'd like to read them so I avoid some of their conventions if possible.   I think the direction I'm taking is mostly original, but there may be some inadvertant mingling of plots/scenes.

I'm glad you like it!

Tarkas posted a comment on Thursday 25th September 2008 1:04am

A very interesting start, and I look forward to seeing where you take it. I am surprised somewhat by your comments in the prologue regarding Dumbledore and Snape; not that there won't be Dumbledore-bashing -- given the changes you are making, many of his mistakes will not happen this time around if he is willing to listen to Harry, and so far it seems that he is -- but I find it hard to accept "no Snape-hating" since the greasy git is, after all, directly responsible for the deaths of Harry's parents and has conducted what can only be called a vicious campaign of bullying and harrassment against their son from the first time they met. Add to that all that Harry knows that Snape would do in the future if things play out as they did, and what the not-terribly-repentant former Death Eater is capable of, and I can't see how he can but loathe the very sight of him. If I were Harry, Snivellus would be number one on my extermination list.

Now prove me wrong. B-D

Mr.Intel replied:

ROFL!   A challenge, huh?   Well... I'll try to change your mind mostly in the story as it unfolds, but it seems like there's already some "canon" evidence that would back up some of Harry's feelings.   There's a reason his second son is named Albus Severus....

Thanks for the great review!